Reply. Waiting on the last piece (Arc) as it’s held up in an overwhelmed distribution facility. — Lack of DTS support. The highly capable soundbar sounds the same as the standard version but omits the built-in microphones of the original and comes in a 'shadow edition' trim. That having been said, my take is that in 2020 the codecs - both DTS and Dolby - have gotten SO good that the relative differences between them are so close to nil as to be nonexistent. Sonos Arc long-term review: the highs and lows Our man Jonny Evans has now been living with the Sonos Arc for a little over three months. Grudgingly, perhaps, but sure. The new Sonos ARC Soundbar is here. Upward firing speakers are subject to so many variables that they cannot possibly be tuned properly to every environment. Anyone who wants the best sound possible doesn’t get a soundbar. Related: Sonos Arc review. I’m not getting Atmos out of my Apple TV (our preferred streaming solution), but what is coming out sounds amazing. Then, by the time I got them both added, they didn't want to add to the Arc which meant I basically had to start over. I’ve been able to pare down my various devices to only three (Apple TV 4K, BD player, and, occasionally an Nintendo Switch), so my, personal, switching needs are fairly modest at this point. Thanks for the in depth review, I have the full package and love it. And for those of you out there who have taken the plunge I hope you do as well. I’ve known full well the massive benefit of well-executed sub bass where movie sound is concerned but since Amazon said the Sub 3 wasn’t going to be available until June 16 anyway I didn’t have much of a choice but to wait. It’s significantly fewer wires and cables. As it stands, I only keep the BD player hooked up as a just-in-case scenario - since we watch all movies over streaming or Plex, I honestly don't remember the last time I popped a disc in for anything other than testing. Upward firing speakers, you get what you get (and what you're really getting is marketing, not Atmos as the film maker intended). But the Arc without the Sub? Sonos might be late to the party, but its first Dolby Atmos soundbar is an absolute belter. Music sounded much richer and more lively. Report Save. Granted, it’s getting a LOT of help from the Sub and the surrounds, but the fact that I’m getting sound this good out of “just” a soundbar is astonishing. Tight, punchy bass that hits just exactly how it needs to. Listening to the test tones in Atmos, I’ll be damned if it didn’t honestly, realistically sound like there were speakers mounted on the ceiling near the TV. If you had the Arc, Sonos Sub then things were great. The Sonos Arc soundbar is okay for movies thanks to its Atmos support. I think the simplicity and the ability to not have wires running all over, large speakers all over is what appealed to my wife... so although it's not a perfect home theater, it's a happy balance for my wife and myself. Quite the opposite of the experience with the Arc, getting the One SLs recognized by the S2 app was a nearly two hour ordeal punctuated by having to connect and disconnect Ethernet cables and do multiple factory resets of the speakers. Given the Playbar is now seven years old, it still looks pretty good, if not a bit rectangular. Yes. Given the Playbar is now seven years old, it still looks pretty good, if not a bit rectangular. Having googled it , this is apparently a known problem between these two manufacturers . The Sonos Arc soundbar’s front panel features a honeycomb polymer chassis that reflects very little light from the screen to limit light pollution. The Arc is, in my opinion, utterly transformed by the addition of a Sub - to the point where I’m honestly kind of surprised that Sonos doesn’t only sell them as a pair. Had it up and running in 2 minutes. Sonos Arc: Design. Of course, if on a budget, the Vizio Elevate might be more of your thing. ;-). Shares. In this sweet spot, my brain was absolutely 100% legitimately convinced that there were speakers above my head and that that’s where the sound was coming from. £799. Then once I managed to get them both added to the app AND the Arc, I couldn't get them to work over WiFi rather than a wired connection! I will most likely be ordering the HDFury adapter when it's available and surviving with ARC for now. Related: Sonos Arc review. The Sonos Arc is a $799 soundbar that features immersive Dolby Atmos surround sound. The surrounds, combined with the wide front soundstage, were truly enveloping me in 360 degree sound. The TV is an LG LG 55EF950 OLED ARC not eARC. People need to put Atmos out of their minds and just enjoy this thing for what it is, a kick ass sound bar. The TV may be capable … Loving it. Sonos Arc review; Sonos Arc vs Sonos Playbar — Design. Comments (5) (Image credit: Sonos) JUMP TO: Update 1: Dolby Atmos at last! Very nice write up, I couldn't agree with you more with the whole setup and how right now, the Arc is lacking by itself. Yes, yes it will. I’m also coming from a dedicated 5.1 HT system with True HD and pulled the plug on the whole Sonos package (Arc, Sub and One SLs) for real bass and Atmos. I get all the way and then, boom, “not connected” and it tries to blame my WiFi and plug in (doesn’t work) but if I log into my router it shows me the speaker is actually connected to the network. If you have the sub it really transforms the Arc into something beautiful sounding but I do think that if you listen closely with the sub... sometimes you still notice the muddy sound but it's almost entirely masked with the sub. Sonos says when additional components are added, the Arc automatically reconfigures itself to produce better sound. I haven't taken the time to try turning it off and making any manual adjustments yet because we've either been busy.... or just enjoying movies and TV on the Arc! In front to the right of the arc to match the first sub (1/4 front placement), and at the back near my right surround (opposing corner placement). They arrive on Wednesday and I’ve got to pull power to the right surround but will then be done. And really, that's the idea. Turning loudness on or off makes a small difference at the volume level where the effect is noticeable but regardless it starts around half volume. Yep. Based on comments I've read I expected Google Assistant to be far superior to Siri in all its capabilities, but a lot of the time it just ends up saying it needs more information or directs me to the web. The Arc is a fantast Great writeup and I've been thinking about taking the plunge into the Arc (already have a Gen 2 Sub and Gen 2 Play 5), but my issue is I have too many devices and my current AVR (Vision + Atmos support) really is hard to give up as it has 8 ports and I'm using 6 of them. One with a sleek, low … Surrounds do a much better job of filling a room than atmos speakers do. In short, incredible. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. While I'm super impressed at how FAST you get the little chime from the Arc when you say "Hey Google," I've been far less impressed at its ability. Even just watching a couple of episodes of Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD was much more engaging and enjoyable with bullets whizzing around in 5.1 surround and Quinjets flying quite effectively all over the room. share. (System: Sonos Arc + One SL Surrounds + Sub Gen 2 / Vizio E70-F3 TV / Apple TV 4K / LG BD Player). Indeed, it’s the best standalone soundbar in this price bracket I’ve listened to and it … dreaminbeige Member. Even in this setup, I barely notice Atmos. I wish I had the magic words to help - it was just factory reset after factory reset. Sonos Arc Review Able to do justice to cutting-edge movie soundtracks and music too, the Arc is yet another great-going-on-brilliant Sonos speaker … Looking forward to trying it all. Play the bombing run scene from Unbroken and we’re immediately transported to within the fuselage of the B-24 Liberator. With low bass being sent to the supremely capable Sub, the Arc was free to open up and deliver some absolutely beautiful sound. Sonos Arc Review Part 1: Oh, That Wide, Glorious Sound Sonos’ latest home theater speaker, the Sonos Arc, begins arriving in customers’ homes later this month. If there’s one thing that’s going to stick in my craw about the Arc both now and moving forward, it’s Atmos. Anyone that buys an Arc thinking it's going to magically create some hyper-immersive surround sound bubble like the marketing materials imply will be disappointed. But still keeping a close eye out for a matrix that will (hopefully) work with the Arcana (and hopefully at a fraction of the cost of one of HDFury’s own switches). This all just my opinion and, as always, your mileage may vary so take with the appropriate amount of salt. (Side note: My wife was shocked this weekend when I pulled out the receiver along with the old speakers to sell off. If you had the Arc, Sonos Sub then things were great. I was irrationally excited for all of the pieces to arrive. Nov 22, 2008 6,175 424 26,070. Sep 5, 2020 #2 Interesting read - thanks! Sonos Arc review: Verdict The Sonos Arc is a fabulous product. The early reddit reviews were because those that had the Arc only had an issue with the bass, which was fixed by a firmware update yesterday and now they are satisfied. I'm excited to finally have good rears (I still need to find stands for them) as well as an upgrade to my cheap Monoprice speakers (which have performed surprisingly well for the price). I may make the switch once HDFury puts out their product that does eARC, as my TV will only passthrough Atmos via DD+... then maybe I can get an HDMI switch as well. My wife didn’t disagree that I looked like an idiot. But for now, I’m going to enjoy the hell out of my Arc system. G. gel Moderator. Could I do the Arc without the surrounds? Everything I bought is backordered, expected to ship in mid July. Most Atmos tracks are pretty lazily done, and the height speakers provide nowhere near the depth or immersion that surrounds provide. I have a proper 5.1.2 home theater with ceiling mounted Atmos speakers. Kind of surprising (though, to be fair, I'm not deeply engrained in the Google ecosystem - maybe if I had all my info in Google it would be smarter... but that's also creepier). (Side note: We find ourselves frustrated with Siri not hearing or understanding us from time to time, so I was curious to see what Google Assistant would be like on the Arc in comparison. Measuring a full 45" in length, this bar is wider than any TV that measures less than 55" on the diagonal. … The Sonos Arc SL Shadow Edition will be a Costco exclusive when it arrives at the members-only retailer later in December, and drops the integrated microphones of the regular Arc… The Sonos Arc is now the company's most expensive product, but it offers sound quality and convenience that none of the other Sonos soundbars can match. I experienced this when I purchased the playbase. @Highfalutintodd - Great review, do you have the link for the Dolby Atmos white noise test file? I ran trueplay on initial setup. Subscribe to our newsletter. But simplicity is meaning more and more to me the older I get. The answer will be different for everyone, but for me most everything is turning out to be a non-issue. Reactions: gel. Pulling up Amaze and Leaf again from this vantage point, the Atmos effect was stunning. I don’t honestly remember what particular voodoo magic I finally managed to perform to get them to not just be recognized by the app, but to successfully register and pair as surrounds with the Arc AND see my WiFi network, but if that had been my first experience with Sonos, it probably would have also been my last as they would have gone straight back into the box and back to the store. Can I work around it? possibly?). Have you heard proper Atmos before? So many people are worried about if or how well Atmos will work. We are a Sonos household, already have 5 speakers around the house. Its first soundbar, the Playbar (currently $599 and being closed out), debuted in 2013. The question is how big of a pain in the ass is it to live with these limits. By Jonathan Evans 20 November 2020. The FlatpanelsHD review is very interesting and looks quite detailed (more so than say Whathifi etc.). I've been playing with 0-4 to find the sweet spot. Case in point, it looked absurdly large when we put it in front of a 40" TV. The Arc absolutely requires the Sub in my personal opinion. I'm toying around with the idea of getting an Nvidia Shield Pro in order to "have it all," but the idea of having yet another $200 box is bothering me when I already love the Apple TV. 5 minutes more, it was Trueplay-tuned and ready to go. Incredibly simple and user friendly. Seems like the review embargo lifted today at 2pm UK time, Not good to hear Atmos is underwhelming . Last year I got a Beam to try (just the bar, no sub or surrounds) but it was sooo quiet. Buy now from Ebay – Sonos Arc (£799) Re-run TruePlay if you move your seats around. ;-). I have a similar situation with my rear surrounds at home. Sonos is known for having an Apple-like attention to detail when it comes to the user experience, and that hasn’t changed here. Subscribe to our newsletter. Sonos Arc: A Dolby Atmos performance evaluation An eARC-equipped TV and a speedy broadband connection allows us to thoroughly evaluate the Sonos Arc’s Atmos chops in a … The Sonos Arc is a high-end soundbar from 2020. Great review and quite balanced the writer detailed some features I have not detected, but I will be listening for. The Sonos Arc is designed to be a … Sure. I think we can confidently say Arc will be that. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When the eArc mode is selected on the TV the sonos produces no sound . I wanted a Playbar, but it was too big and clunky and the SO would not approve. Am I happy? I have the same arc/sub/one sls setup. If you connect to a TV with eARC, the Dolby audio formats supported include Dolby Atmos, TrueHD, MAT, Dolby Digital Plus, and Dolby Digital. The Sonos Arc is the flagship example of what Sonos S2 is capable of, a $799 soundbar that attempts to do the near-impossible. I don't know for sure without a proper listen but the above is a bit of a warning that the Arc can sound aggressive and fatiguing when volume reaches 50% and above. Wait...so my LG C9 will essentially not be able to utilize this sound bar to its proper potential? Does anyone have any insight here? But as a tech geek I’m actually excited about things like this. With ceiling mounted speakers you can put them exactly where they need to be. Think the Sub will make my future tenants lives miserable? Sold my Denon AVR today, still looking for a home for my Def Tech Pro Cinema 600 speakers. I have an older Vizio 70" TV with ARC support (supposedly) and there is no incentive for me to upgrade it anytime soon. The Arc provides soundscapes that easily eclipse the constrained capabilities of the Beam. Switching between the two on my current system via PS4 in games, there is defiantly a noticeable difference (DD5.1 sounds noticeably worse in its surround and clarity) so really hoping the Arc setup does it justice. And that’s not even mentioning the ecosystem lock-in since you can’t pair non-Sonos subs or surrounds to an Arc. I am a little underwhelmed by the Sub, but that may be because I'm coming from a monster SVS sub. Really nice write up! The music performance section concludes with this: " Like the majority of soundbars available today, Sonos Arc does not excel as a music system. Would I recommend it? Naturally, the new Sonos Arc SL, which was spotted by an observant Reddit user, mirrors both the purpose and the naming convention of the Sonos One SL. Sonos has been very transparent about there being an issue with the bass that they’re working on a software fix for and early indications are that it will help tremendously (maybe? Haha) 1. Yep, HomePods for the win! I purchased the Arc as a sound bar in my Sonos 5.1 system and I can tell you I am not disappointed. TruePlay is Sonos… Thanks for taking the time to do this and I'm glad you're happy as a first time Sonos owner. Now I was starting to see the potential and the benefit of what Sonos had to offer, especially since all I had to do was plug them into the nearest wall socket (and have even been running them off of power banks as I've figured out placement!). I have an Arcam Bluray DVD UDP411 player and a Sky Q satellite receiver HD downloading 4k content. It was mesmerizing. I convinced myself I didn’t need it, and preordered the Arc (which I’m still waiting on) and I have Play:1’s already mounted...I have a downstairs unit I’m going to be renting out and hardwood floors that seem to already accentuate every noise and step for the downstairs...I still go back and forth. Treble has attitude. For greatest compatibility, eARC is recommended. The Sonos Arc is considerably more expensive at launch than the Sonos Playbar was. Plus, just as with my HomePods before them, I’m continually amazed at the fullness of the sound the One SLs can create and the amount of bass they put out. Solid review. level 1. Now I just have to figure out how to get that sound from where I sit on the couch instead of 3 feet in front of the TV….. For nearly $2k all in, you’d think you’d be getting all the bells and whistles, but you’re not. What’s really nice, too, is that the Sub is nice and subtle when it needs to be (at lower volumes, say, or in less sonically adventurous fare, but when it’s time to rock, it is absolutely happy to rock. THIS SHOULD BE POINTED OUT IN YOUR REVIEW ! Looking for an incredibly long and detailed post of personal experiences and opinions of a first-time Sonos owner about my Sonos Arc so far? The problem is that volume below 50% is basically what I call background listening. For example: if you’re watching a movie that doesn’t support Atmos, the Arc will adapt and use the … Sub connected flawlessly. I debated for a while about ordering the Arc. Not loud enough he he. I just stood there like an idiot looking at the ceiling for a good two minutes listening to white noise. 2 months ago. I’m about to give up. While there are plenty of reviews saying the Sonos ARC + Sub + one SL surrounds (£1,856) sound "good" or "excellent", I can't find much info on what sort of budget AVR/speakers this might be comparable too. It's really tempting as the clean setup is something I'm after for sure. I’m thinking of just waiting for the sub to arrive before setting it up as I don’t want to be let down on first impressions. LG TVs do not support PCM via eARC. Is it more money? This soundbar supports Atmos content, which the Sonos Beam doesn't. Setting up the Arc is quite easy, if slightly time-consuming-- just connect to your TV via the HDMI or optical inputs (HDMI is better if you have the option) and finish setup through the Sonos … It all sounds great to me. I trust Sonos in that they will further the hardware with timely updates as the product matures. Sonos Arc review: this soundbar sounds simply fantastic Dolby Atmos-enabled wifi smart speaker is brilliant one-box audio upgrade for TV and music, but think twice if using Sky, Virgin or similar She had no idea the Arc wasn't just another speaker that I'd plugged into the receiver that had been sitting under the TV for over a decade and was pretty surprised when I told her that all of the "receiver stuff" was in the tube in front of the TV. I had no problems until I attempted the surrounds. This review is torture. I know many have been complaining about the lack of a matte option for the Sub, but I have to admit my breath was kind of taken away when I pulled it out of the box. Yes. If you can afford the whole thing and simplicity matters more to you than overall flexibility - yes. I find the arc sounds great, but the only issue I’m having is that with some sources (PS4) at normal listening volume, the bass effect is almost deafening. I have an lg c8 and is says digital out: PCM, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A place for all Sonos users to hang out and discuss hardware, software, installation, ideas and troubleshooting, Press J to jump to the feed. If you can only afford the Arc itself, however… that’s a bigger question that i don’t think can be answered until the bass issue fix is out and people can properly evaluate it. The point of all this? Great write up! Unfortunately, there's no full EQ, and movie watchers might be disappointed by the lack of DTS support. I really want the sub. It allows for an immersive listening experience, although it doesn't have the best surround experience without the separate satellites. Sonos Arc Surround Sound Package set-up — Choose your rear speakers wisely. Still a shame about DTS as I have no idea how the PS5 will go with the Arc setup and I’ll be going from DTS down to DD5.1 on my current PS4. Glad you've found Sonos bliss. Our man Jonny Evans has now been living with the Sonos Arc for a little over three months. Big but not massive. Nope - Plex on Apple TV doesn’t support Dolby TrueHD at all so no TrueHD or Atmos from my Blu-ray rips at all. Good Stuff . As it is, however, they’ve performed admirably since that initial setup debacle, and the sound quality from them has been nothing short of astounding. One rather major issue with the surrounds, however, was setup. In fact I bought two more today. Agree with your points about its limitations. The Sonos Arc is a $799 soundbar that features immersive Dolby Atmos surround sound. Actually, with the 5.1 Surround Set bundle deal on Amazon at the time, a brand new Arc, pair of Ones, and new gen Sub were cheaper (1459.66) than I could get the same setup with a Playbar. Boy howdy, have you come to the right place! I want Atmos because it represents a leap forward in spatial positioning, but if Plex is transcoding DTS Master Audio into Dolby Digital Plus on the fly and doing a good job at it (which it seems to be), then color me happy. Sonos bills it as a means of not waking the rest of the house, but if the product is going into an MDU, then there is a useful option there also. There have been a lot of hot takes and initial impressions written about the Sonos Arc at this point, but just over a week in I'll jump in with my final thoughts just to close things out and have my say. It should just sound like it's coming from everywhere. The review also finds some issue with upper bass: " Bass-lines that go "too high" up into the frequency range will still force Arc out of balance but overall sound is generally comparable to Playbar." My 3.1 was a little Athena with a fairly anemic P.5 sub that was kind of on its last legs anyway, so the Sonos Sub has been a revelation. Only a single HDMI port so you’re stuck with the capabilities of your TV rather than your source equipment unlike literally every other piece of AV gear in the world. No MQA support. Getting rid of wires will be a plus. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Sonos Beam but bumping up the larger model for exactly the kind of improvement you’d expect. Maybe the bass issue software bug is artificially holding the Arc back, sonically, but the Sub sets the Arc free. Sonos Arc long-term review: the highs and lows. Atmos via Apple TV 4K is PCM passed down via eARC. Badly. As far as I have read, the Arc is one of the best sounding soundbars - and should be compared to other soundbars. Yes, yes I am. Granted, I was entirely too close to the TV (a solid 10 feet in front of my usual viewing position on the couch), but with the surrounds now well behind me - as opposed to their usual side-firing position, which is about the only place I can put them given the shape of the room - standing in the height effects sweet spot the sound was unbelievable. Do I wish the Arc was more capable from an input perspective? Wondering if anyone else is having this issue? The already wide soundstage, now paired with the lovely One SLs and a thumping sub now effortlessly creates a shockingly immersive listening experience that I’m pretty amazed by. The Arc is, in my opinion, utterly transformed by the addition of a Sub - to the point where I’m honestly kind of surprised that Sonos doesn’t only sell them as a pair. Sonos Arc: A Dolby Atmos performance evaluation An eARC-equipped TV and a speedy broadband connection allows us to thoroughly evaluate the Sonos Arc’s Atmos chops in a … And AirPlay…. Absolutely. All I really did was try, try again. In 2020 it can't cost any more to support DTS from a chipset perspective, and since Sonos apparently never has supported DTS there must be some business or philosophical reason why not that I'm not privy to. The Sonos Arc is a lot more massive than the Sonos Beam, which offered a compact, discreet and slim system. If you connect to a TV using ARC, the Dolby audio formats supported are dependent on your TV model and manufacturer. The surrounds and Sub can be moved around so much more easily since they’re wireless. I require a … For as simple as they make certain things, other things are needlessly complicated at the moment and aren’t likely to change anytime soon. Reading through the review I notice a few key points regarding music SQ. Anyone who wants the experience they think atmos is supposed to provide... drop another $200 on Symfoniks for the rears and you'll have it. 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